Happy New Year! Mesut Ozil caused controversy when refused to take a 12.5% pay cut at Arsenal back in April. But star striker Lionel Messi doesn’t want to accept a 30 percent pay cut at Barcelona, Spanish sports daily Marca has reported.. Taking a pay cut is never ideal, but it doesn’t have to spell career doom. Coronavirus: How has sport been affected? by Evil HR Lady on September 16, 2020. As part of the agreement, Arteta has also agreed to the salary reduction, having played a key role in negotiating the measure between club and players after something of a stand-off in recent weeks. Ozil is actively involved in donating to a number of charities himself, with the 92-cap Germany international memorably using his wedding with wife Amine to pay for 1,000 children to have life-changing surgery, as well as providing food for 100,000 homeless people at 16 refugee camps and shelters in Turkey and Syria. Please be respectful when making a comment and adhere to our Community Guidelines. It is now an extremely common situation, my partner has the same. For instance, if you complain that your boss is sexually harassing you, and then your pay is cut, that is called retaliation and it is illegal. The government is I think I reviewing the furloughing at the end of May. Arsenal players reject pay cut to aid club and demand wage deferral or bust This article is more than 8 months old Squad asked for 12.5% pay cut if Champions League not attained Small numbers of redundancies can be carried out fairly quickly. It seems a crap thing to do - cut everyone’s pay but still expect some to work, but times are tough . If all men get a pay cut, but no women, that's illegal. However, while most clubs have been able to agree on a deal with the players, it would seem that three Arsenal players are refusing to take the 12.5% pay-cut that the majority of the squad has taken. If they do refuse to accept pay cuts, can the employer dismiss those employees? Anyone coming to it fresh would need time to develop.I am just trying to work out what the most likely scenario would be if I refuse the pay cut ... Redundancy or dismissal if it was construed as resignation? My job isn't easy to replace especially as I am part time and most others are FT. Wallabies lock Izack Rodda and Queensland Reds teammates Isaac Lucas and Harry Hockings could be lost to Australian rugby after the trio were stood down for refusing to take pay cuts. Soccer stars bite the hand that feeds, refuse pay cut Manchester City’s Kevin De Bruyne, Watford captain Troy Deeney and West Ham skipper Mark Noble led the fightback by Dave Makichuk April 6, … 370 Join the conversation Everyone in the business is also being asked to take a 20% pay cut (so sane as you- same money whether you are working or furloughed) . 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Reds trio refuse to take pay cut, stood down by QRU. Advertisement More Stories Are you in a union? If I Refuse a 20 Percent Pay Cut, Is it a Resignation or Termination? Mesut Ozil caused controversy when refused to take a 12.5% pay cut at Arsenal back in April. Furlough pay and pay for those who stay in work would be the same.I wouldn't be furloughed but expected to work the same hours for less pay and have been asked to accept this in writing.What is likely to happen if I either just don't confirm my acceptance or write back to say I don't accept it?I used to enjoy the job but we can manage without the money and I'm weighing up if it's worth the effort of carrying on. A €3.4 billion taxpayer-funded bailout for the Dutch flag carrier KLM has been withdrawn by the country’s government after pilots and other unions rejected a plan to slash wages for up to five years. The employer had attempted to avoid dismissal by offering to review the position after six months. Help prepare me for awkward conversation! “The move follows positive and constructive discussions. Mesut Ozil has defended his decision to refuse a pay cut at Arsenal during lockdown, insisting that “people have been trying for two years to destroy … There was another thread on this. Create a commenting name to join the debate, There are no Independent Premium comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts, There are no comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts. The 31-year-old would still take home more than £306,000 per week before tax if he were to agree to the salary reduction. I would appreciate some advice for my particular case. By Tim Elbra. Premier League stars REFUSE 30 per cent wage cut and say: We want to help the NHS, not rich owners Dan King, Andrew Dillon, Phil Thomas and Duncan Wright 5 Apr 2020, 14:27 A No. Your current position and duties will remain the same. A Set small text size A Set the default text size A Set large text size. As reports ESPN 's … Arsenal’s annual wage bill is in the region of £230m, but although that will now be significantly reduced, there are still fears that the club will need a significant cash injection from Kroenke in order to avoid major financial issue in the coming years - something the the American billionaire has not been keen to do during his tenure as majority shareholder. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. You can also choose to be emailed when someone replies to your comment. "Unless there is a clause in your contract which allows your employer to [cut your pay] you can refuse," Adam Pavey, employment solicitor at Poole Alcock Solicitors told The Sun. ... meaning a pay cut of more than 50 … The executive staff has already taken the same pay cut. LAPD Officers Refuse to Discuss Potential Pay Cuts Because of Pandemic Eric Leonard 11/16/2020 Kansas mayor resigns over violent threats for backing mask mandate: ‘I … You can use your new salary to negotiate for that work-from-home situation you’ve been wanting, or you can view this as a sign from the universe that it’s time to make a switch. Shân Evans, of People Management, explained: "Legally, an employer cannot impose a pay cut upon its employees if they have an employment contract that sets out details of their salary … NRL players refuse to return to training on May 4 if pay agreement isn't reached. In a video conference among top brass last Friday, it was discussed how the players, akin to the everyday public, should take a pay cut too. I work part time in a low-ish paid job but which is quite demanding.The employer is cutting everyone's pay by the same percentage with some people furloughed. The most insightful comments on all subjects will be published daily in dedicated articles. What if you agreed to this timeframe? This question was recently considered in the case of Garside and Laycock Ltd v Booth . They all agreed. COVID-19: Remainder Of The Arsenal Squad Agree To Deal The other two players that have refused to take the pay-cut haven’t been revealed, but fans were stunned that Ozil wouldn’t make the decision to take 12.5% of his wages since he is one of the … Most were just told. KLM has described the COVID-19 pandemic as its “deepest crisis since World War II” and has already reduced its workforce by 5,000 employees. But it isn't fair, as those furloughed aren't having to work. Employees at London Heathrow Airport are told to accept coronavirus pay cut “Reductions of total annual earnings by 12.5 per cent will come into effect this month, with the contractual paperwork being completed in the coming days. Yes, it's the 100% work for less than 100% pay that is annoying. I think if you wrote back to say you don’t accept, they will treat it as resignation. Gareth Bale the only Madrid star to refuse pay cut during lockdown. My DH took the view that as redundancies will almost certainly happen after this he would rather take a pay cut and work (and show himself to be essential) rather then be furloughed. ET: A representative for Ms. DeGeneres said these claims are absolutely not true but refused to say if the embattled host took a pay cut. My job isn't easy to replace especially as I am part time and most others are FT. BBC warning as millions of over-75s refuse to pay licence fee in fury at 'broken promises' BBC bosses have been warned millions of Britons aged 75 and over are refusing to pay … The process which the employer adopted when consulting with employees with regard to the pay cut would also have to be scrutinised for fairness. I am hoping the lack of spending In other areas at the moment will make up the shortfall!Op I am hugely grateful to my employer for not turning straight to redundancies and taking these measures to try and ensure it stays that way. (That is, your boss can say, "Starting today we're paying you $5,000 less per year," but can't say, "Oh, by the way, the paycheck you get today will be less because we cut your pay $5,000 per year. To feel indignant when a neighbour has no interest in me. Premier League stars refuse to back down as they tell their clubs (and Matt Hancock!) Is this allowed and what can I do if I'm not happy? To use this feature subscribe to Mumsnet Premium - get first access to new features see fewer ads, and support Mumsnet. Arsenal players reject pay cut to aid club and demand wage deferral or bust This article is more than 8 months old Squad asked for 12.5% pay cut … If all Asians receive a pay cut, but no one else, that's illegal. The reduction has been agreed “to help cover some of the financial risks” being posed by the outbreak of Covid-19, which has seen all games suspended since Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta was diagnosed with coronavirus nearly six weeks ago. Thousands of employees at … A pay cut is a change to your employment contract and you have the right to disagree with it. “The agreement is based on the assumption we will finish the season 2019/20 and receive the full broadcasting revenues. If everyone over 40 years of age receive a pay cut, but no one younger, that's illegal. However, in practice, if the majority have consented and are now receiving lower pay to avoid redundancies it would not be acceptable to have a few fellow workers doing the same job for higher rates of pay. Former Germany international wants to wait and see how football’s financial crisis during the coronavirus lockdown plays out at Arsenal before deciding whether to follow the example set by his club teammates, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile. He hasn’t ruled out taking the pay-cut, but already his decision has been ridiculed by members of the press and fans on social media. We would like to cut your pay by 10%. It's for a minimum of three months. The Gunners confirmed last week that they are not planning to utilise the government’s furlough scheme and outlined their intention to pay staff in full during this uncertain period, while extending casual employees’ wages until the end of May. So essentially cut 20% of their work week so take a 20% pay cut. Or just have an Internet browse - it's a common and current problem, lots of the unions, ACAS and CRB have probably written online about it. Arsenal legend lists the … A No. Consider yourself lucky to be being paid any kind of wage for any kind of job. In this case, the employer sought to impose changes to terms and conditions, including a pay reduction of … The Gunners are currently in a stand-off with their playing staff after they rejected a 12.5% pay cut worth £25m in total. How vital is your job likely to be if the company is in trouble? The existing Open Comments threads will continue to exist for those who do not subscribe to Independent Premium. Unfortunately a lot of firms are, I think, using this crisis to cut their wage bills and push it onto people without choice. Elizabeth Warren, the candidate, has attempted to position herself a champion of the common man, a defender of the working class, and a hero to Americans throughout the country who are struggling to make ends me. Employees at Britain’s busiest airport have been warned that they face the sack if they refuse to accept voluntary pay cuts during the coronavirus pandemic. The agreement for reductions was struck after a fortnight of protracted negotiations between the first-team squad and the club’s hierarchy, with staff told on a call on Monday before the official announcement. A Set small text size A Set the default text size A Set large text size. If they’re changing you contract they do need your consent. My company recently got bought out by a big corporate company. When the pay cut is discriminatory. We will be able to make those repayments as hitting these targets, which the players can directly influence, will mean our financial position will be stronger. The Independent understands that the former Germany international has joined two other players in failing to agree to the pay cut, despite the club announcing the move on Monday. Our journalists will try to respond by joining the threads when they can to create a true meeting of independent Premium. Therefore, the employees who refuse to consent to the pay cuts have the contractual right to remain on their current level of pay. When the pay cut drops your salary below the minimum wage. Workers may be able to collect unemployment benefits after refusing work or quitting a job. In a statement, the club said: “We are pleased to announce that we have reached a voluntary agreement with our first-team players, head coach and core coaching staff to help support the club at this critical time. Want an ad-free experience?Subscribe to Independent Premium. In Garside & Laycock Ltd v Booth [2011] IRLR 735 the employer encountered trading difficulties and decided to ask its employees to accept a 5% pay reduction. The claimant was one of two members of the 80-plus workforce who refused to accept the proposal; he was dismissed. I would take it as a compliment they want to keep you on but if you refuse it then I'm not sure what would happen. KLM 3.4bn bailout hits crisis as unions refuse paycut plan. It might be best to show your job is vital and keep it if redundancies are on the horizon. This is page 1 of 1 (This thread has 24 messages.). Please continue to respect all commenters and create constructive debates. Reds trio refuse to take pay cut, stood down by QRU. Pilots are said to be worst affected by the planned pay cuts, with local media reporting plans to slash the wages of KLM’s 3,000 strong pilot workforce by as much as 20 per cent. Since you seem to indicate you would then be on near minimum wage for far more responsibility, there are many easier jobs where you could get the same money. I'm a single parent so even though I'm in a professional industry, don't have lots of money left over. Arsenal stars refuse pay cut after being told to qualify for UCL. @flowery No, they haven't offered an alternative.It won't take me below NMW as long as I'm careful not to work beyond my hours (which normally I would do).Initially they presented it as 'we are cutting everyone's wages' without making it clear we have to agree with the change in contract, but I have just received a letter asking me to agree to it.I'm not in a union btw. Are you sure you want to delete this comment? Madrid captain Sergio Ramos took it up himself to persuade players to accept the reduction in wages while Zinedine Zidane helped the team recognize the importance of helping out by taking a pay cut. It's nasty and cutthroat and unfair- but it's the harsh reality of business.Decisions should be made with this in mind. PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor told the Premier League and EFL on Wednesday that he will not agree to his members (footballers) taking a pay cut … My employer has told me to take a 20 per cent pay cut due to the impact coronavirus is having on the business, yet I still have to work full-time. Therefore, the employees who refuse to consent to the pay cuts have the contractual right to remain on their current level of pay. Companies will be looking to make redundancies on their back of all of this. Phone ACAS for advice before you do anything. Are you sure you want to mark this comment as inappropriate? "). Arsenal stars have refused to agree to terms of a pay cut set out by the club (Image: REUTERS) Read More Related Articles. UPDATE 4:20 p.m. Ozil also used his 2014 World Cup winnings to fund surgery for 23 Brazilian children to have operations, at a cost of £240,000. This might happen in one of two ways: First, you will no longer be exempt if your salary is cut to less than $684 per week. In these conversations there has been a clear appreciation of the gravity of the current situation caused by the Covid-19 pandemic and a strong desire for players and staff to show their backing for the Arsenal family. My understanding is that they can't force you, but I suspect that unofficially those who refuse to accept a pay cut will be at the top of list for redundancy or to be got rid of in some other way (eg disciplinary) without a paper trail leading to the real reason.Are you still as financially secure without it if/when full and hard recession hits? that they will NOT be forced into taking pay cuts in fresh talks led by Liverpool captain Jordan Henderson Staff at London Heathrow Airport face being sacked if they refuse to accept a 15 per cent pay cut during the coronavirus pandemic. 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